The Longevity Loop Podcast

The Future of Personalized Healthcare

• Brent Wallace from Longevity Clinic Marketing

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Greg Rovner, CEO and co-founder of Heally, joins us to explain how his telehealth platform is revolutionizing access to longevity medicine by connecting patients with licensed healthcare providers specializing in preventative treatments and optimization.

• Heally was founded after Greg's frustrating experiences with traditional healthcare that focused only on treating symptoms
• Heally offers a comprehensive ecosystem approach, not just isolated telehealth services
• The platform emphasizes the difference between healthspan (quality of life) and lifespan (years lived)
• Treatments available include NAD+ therapy, hormone optimization, and GLP-1 medications
• NAD+ plays a crucial role in cellular energy production and DNA repair, with levels declining with age
• Heally's metabolic health program combines GLP-1 medications with personalized lab testing and lifestyle support
• The platform rigorously vets providers and pharmacies to ensure quality and safety
• Despite no insurance coverage, Heally makes treatments accessible through transparent pricing and payment options
• The foundation of longevity medicine starts with optimizing sleep, nutrition, and physical activity

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Speaker 1:

This is the Longevity Loop podcast and I'm your host, brent Wallace. In every episode, I bring you the leading voices in longevity, plus my own insights, to put the world's best strategies directly into your hands, making elite longevity strategies accessible to everyone, regardless of your background. So let's jump into the loop, starting right now. Hey all Welcome to the Longevity Loop podcast. I'm Brent Wallace and before we dive in today's episode, I just want to do a quick disclaimer. Basically, the information shared in this podcast today is for educational purposes only and should not be considered medical device. It's not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, prevent any disease or medical condition. I'm not a doctor and I don't pretend to be. This is a podcast between two friends talking about some really cool services, as you will find out shortly. So always consult with a qualified healthcare professional, like we're going to talk about today with gethealycom. If you want to consult with a professional, go there, it's perfect Before making any changes to your health regimen. So same thing with Greg. Obviously, you see Greg or can hear him on the line. If you're listening to this, not watching this, you know the views expressed by Greg and all of our guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Longevity Loop podcast or its affiliates. With all that said, let's get into our real discussion. So we're with Greg Rovner. He is the CEO and co-founder of Healy. Join us on the Longevity Loop today. Greg, just a little bit of history about him. He's been revolutionizing healthcare access since 2016,.

Speaker 1:

Really making longevity medicine accessible through people with modern day technology and basically, telehealth medicine. So people anywhere in the United States and is it Canada too, greg? Or is it just the United States? It's just the United States. Okay, the thing that's really cool about Healy that, I really think, is the coolest thing about it it's not just another telehealth platform. It's actually a comprehensive ecosystem. So a lot of telehealth places are just like one doctor or one set of services and products. This is completely different. It's really the sky's the limit. If you are interested in GLP-1, if you are interested in NAD, we'll get into all of this, but it's really that's the coolest thing of Healy in general is that it's really comprehensive and it's a completely ecosystem that you will get paired with someone that will help you to reach the goals. So it's not just like finding the doctor and then seeing if they offer the services. Healy has it covered. So that is what's really cool about that Connecting patients with licensed doctors and professionals specializing in longevity, weight management, hormone optimization and even like other treatments that you wouldn't really find in healthcare systems traditional healthcare systems.

Speaker 1:

So really bridging the gap between what Gregg calls healthcare and sick care, focusing on prevention and optimization rather than just treating symptoms, like if you're familiar with longevity at all. That's really what longevity medicine is all about. It's the preventative side of things, optimizing things before you get sick, and that's what's what tracks me to longevity medicine, and I'm sure that's Greg would say the same thing there. So, so you know, you can access all of that through your telephone or computer, you know just like we're talking today. So it's really, really cool. So, greg, welcome. After that lengthy intro. There didn't mean to talk everyone's ear off before we actually start talking to Greg here, but I'm super stoked you're here today. Thank you for joining us. First let's start with your story. You've been an entrepreneur for two decades now. You co-founded Healy back in 2000. What was really the aha moment that made you realize that traditional healthcare was failing people and really provide a service for people who wanted to optimize health and longevity?

Speaker 2:

Thanks, Brian, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me here to have this discussion. I think it's an important one. I think my aha moment came from my own experience with primary care. I guess my primary care physician is not very involved and every visit feels rushed, inefficient and ultimately just not very helpful. I always walk away with confusion on what to do, how to feel better or how to generally improve my health, like on a long-term basis. And he's just always putting Band-Aids on and looking for solutions for symptoms and never thinking through like what is actually causing my problems.

Speaker 2:

And there was some time ago I was kind of in a lull. I was overweight, struggling with chronic inflammation. I had no idea about it. It looked like I was having early arthritis in my hips. My provider never stopped to speak to me about the things that were important that could cause those symptoms, which is nutrition, sleep or any kind of prevention whatsoever. I saw my glucose creeping up. It was getting closer and closer to 100, but it wasn't flagged as an issue.

Speaker 2:

Primary care doesn't look at your glucose or talk to you about diabetes or pre-diabetes until you're in the 90s already, which is nonsense. They don't look at A1C the way they should be, and that's what I realized that traditional healthcare. It isn't designed for people who want to optimize, it's reactive, it's not proactive, and so I wanted to build something different, something that differentiates between health span and lifespan, which are two important but independent concepts. Right, it's like can you live till 100 or 120? Well, yes, you can, but what are the last few decades of your life like? What is the quality of life like? Are you bed ridden or are you, you know, walking around, Are you? So? That was the kind of the motivation behind healing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, I mean that's what you know. For those of you familiar with Peter Atiyah, you know that's like one of the always things I always remember him saying you know the healthcare and or lifespan and healthspan is a huge differentiator. You know it's like you don't want to 20 years of the last 20 years of your life being miserable, crippled and bedridden and you want to have like the maximum and then keel over and die you know what I mean like just up into that day.

Speaker 1:

You want to be perfectly healthy and just ready to go and and you do see people like that that are. They're perfectly healthy and and it's just super cool to see that up into advanced years. You know super being, super active, social um. You know networks really help all those things. So you have a background in insurance and business development. How did that really prep you for what you're doing now is disrupting healthcare man disrupting is such a big word.

Speaker 2:

It's such a scary word. You know it's funny. You can't trust someone that said they're disrupting healthcare, like healthcare is so massive and so entrenched with that. But what I do think we're doing is creating a meaningful alternative to traditional healthcare, and so actually what insurance taught me is scalability. I ran agencies, I built systems, but, most importantly, I learned to be scrappy. I learned to work remote and to set up operations with minimizing expenses as much as possible, and that is pretty much the key takeaway from the insurance career is like spend as little money as you can and look for resources that maybe are a little bit out of the box to help you grow. Don't jump into blowing money on things that you really don't need or that are not going to move the needle for you. I think that was the biggest lesson.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, nice and sorry to like say disrupting. That is kind of a crazy word and, frankly, overused, but really that's I mean I feel that's what longevity medicine is in general is disrupting that.

Speaker 2:

And you're a big part of that because I'm honored, by the way. But you said that, yeah, yes, yes, yes, I wanted to just bring, bring myself down to earth a little bit, because it's like, yeah, that's a big.

Speaker 1:

Well, sometimes when I say these questions and chat with people. It's just like I'm just like shoot, yeah, like you, you're. I was like, yeah, that could have. I could have worded that a little different, but anyway, I still believe that's what you're doing, you know there.

Speaker 1:

So let's talk about Healy's mission. Then you know, like you've described it, as you know, created a complimentary healthcare system that you know, like we just talked about, like it's the healthcare rather than sick care. Can you break down what actually what that actually means for someone who might be listening and really frustrated with their current healthcare experience? Or maybe even if they're not frustrated with their current health care experience, knowing that there could be something else and I think that was my boat coming into longevity, I was just like, okay, great, I've got a doctor, but I didn't really realize that there was kind of the next level of health care and wellness that I could be going after. And I think a lot of people could also be in that boat. Even if they're not frustrated with their doctor now, they might love their doctor. What's the next? You know that next horizon line for them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so I mean, it's a good question. You know, early on, we don't go into this like thinking that we're going to replace traditional healthcare. I mean, in a perfect world, we're complementing it by focusing on what they're ignoring right now, which is unfortunate, but they're ignoring wellness, prevention and optimization. And for people that are frustrated by that system, it means that we offer a proactive approach, one that starts with personalized diagnostics lab work, genetic testing is at the root of everything that we do and, frankly, just a real conversation about what optimal health looks like for you. It's not about waiting until your numbers are out of range, it's about acting before diseases set in. And you mentioned Peter Atsia earlier, and I'm also a fan he calls it the four horsemen. Right, the four horsemen are going to kill most Americans and they're all avoidable. Right, they're cancer, neurodegenerative disorders, diabetes and cardiovascular disease. So the idea is to live in a way that avoids those ends and that's the focus.

Speaker 2:

And you mentioned sick care versus wellness care. I mean, yeah, traditional healthcare is really sick care. You get their attention when you're already sick. And at Healy we try to stop and ask ourselves how do we extend your outspend? How do we keep you strong, functional. How do we keep you thriving into your old age?

Speaker 2:

And that means simple things. Usually it means making sleep, physical activity, nutrition, mental health foundational and not like afterthoughts or ancillary services. They're not ancillary, they're central, and even the way we read labs at Healy is different. We look at what's optimal and not just what's standard, and another part of the mission that's really important is empowering independent providers like doctors, nurses, even like health coaches, nutritionists, and giving them the tools that they need to build practices that they want to run. There's a lot of great clinicians that are actually burnt out in the traditional system. They're all stuck in 10-minute appointment mills, they're working under insurance insurers that make it hard to collect payment, and they're actually, in a lot of cases, doing more paperwork than actual patient care, and so we give them a path out, and it's, you know, whether it's through telehealth or something related to longevity or functional medicine or maybe even one of our mobile services. We help them create a revenue stream, that's cash pay, and they take control of their future.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's super cool. I love that how you're helping. You know the proverbial little guy there where they might be struggling, like you said, between. I mean, there's so many doctors that don't even take insurance anymore, just because that's what it is. You got 10 minutes with the patient, you got to code it, you got to fight for the billing. There's just so many things and hurdles for those doctors that might really be passionate about health but, like you said, they get burnt out because they're not actually practicing the health or the practice of medicine that they want to. It's just they're kind of forced into the system and it's really cool that Healy gives them a way out there.

Speaker 1:

And I do want to mention to those listeners Healy is H-E-A-L-L-Y, so the double L there. Just you know that was like I was like, oh yeah, the two L's there. So anyway, just wanted to throw that out there. So this is really cool that you're building, you know, a little bit more than a platform. You're building a true ecosystem like I talked about earlier. Can you walk me and the listeners through how this works from a patient's perspective? If someone is interested in longevity medicine, what would be the journey like with Healy?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so there's a few different ways, or let's call them entry points into Healy.

Speaker 2:

It's not a one size fits all journey, and I think that's important with healthcare, obviously, because every individual is different, based on needs and goals, and so people can find us in a variety of ways, depending on what it is they're looking for.

Speaker 2:

You might be searching online for something specific like a peptide, nad+, or maybe some specific functional lab panel, and you might land on one of our product pages and come in that way and maybe book a consultation with our care team to learn about the service, or get into directly with a meeting to sorry, get into a meeting with one of our doctors immediately.

Speaker 2:

Or you can come in through your provider. Maybe your nutritionist or your health coach or even your doctor already uses Healy in their practice, and so you'll enter the ecosystem that way and have access to the different pieces, the different services and different providers that are in the ecosystem. And for the most part, what we do is not transactional. We don't just hand you one product and kind of send you on your way right. Our providers take a functional, a root cause approach and guide you towards the right combination of therapies, whether it's lab-based supplementation, hormone optimization or even sleep and recovery strategies, because they, all you know, play into the same concept and it's a personalized, ongoing relationship. It's never. It's never a quick fix yeah, that's super cool.

Speaker 1:

I mean it's that's. The really cool thing about longevity medicine in general is, is that optimizational approach is like taking labs that are way more complex than any lab you've probably ever had at a traditional primary care physician and it's really going through and even just like you're saying about the fasting glucose or glucose, it's just like tightening those ranges up for optimization, not just like hey, you're about to get diabetes here or prediabetes. It's like no, no, let's address this way before it gets there, and really digging into that data and having a long-term proactive approach to your wellness there. So one of the really exciting things I'm sure everyone's wondering about is actually some of the actual treatments that you're going to be offering at Healy. Obviously, cutting edge longevity is just a cutting edge type of technology. There's NAD+. I mean let's just start with that For our listeners who might not be super familiar. What is NAD+? Why is it and why is it such an important factor for aging your health span?

Speaker 2:

That's a great question. So NAD plus is short for a nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide, which is a molecule. It's found in every cell in the human body and it plays a crucial role in energy production. So it's in the mitochondria of the cell. It is in charge of cellular repair and maintaining the DNA of the cell. As we age, our NAD plus levels decline dramatically. So that contributes to fatigue, lower metabolism or slower metabolism, brain fog and just general decreased resilience.

Speaker 2:

And so by replenishing NAD plus, either through IV therapy or subcutaneous injections, there's a variety of ways you could take NAD plus and we'll talk about that in a second. But essentially NAD plus is recharging the body at the cellular level. It supports mitochondrial function, it boosts cognitive performance, it enhances recovery and it also slows the aging process, which essentially, I guess it activates certain aspects of the cell that are linked to longevity. So it works at the genetic level, at the cellular level, and people generally take it as an IV treatment. You can get it at a high dose as an IV.

Speaker 2:

Iv is the best way to absorb medication right, it's going right into your bloodstream. So you can get an IV. A lot of times they push a small dose as an add-on to like a hydration, or you can get a 500 milligram or a thousand milligram IV of NAD plus, and that's obviously the best way to take it. And then you could take it as an injection, either intramuscular or subcutaneous, and lately subcutaneous has been showing that you know the absorption is enough to get the benefit of the NAD+, and so our vials come with sub-Q syringes, so you don't feel the pain of the IV, right?

Speaker 1:

I was just going to say the sub-Q injections are so much more pleasant than an intermuscular injection, Right, exactly yeah. And then obviously with the IVs you'd have to find and go into a clinic versus the injections you could do at home, correct?

Speaker 2:

So, yes, and no, injections you could definitely do at home. Mobile IV is available in many metropolitan areas in the country. Oh, that's very cool. Yeah, so that's one of the things that we're working on scale is our mobile services like mobile IV and mobile aesthetics, and bringing the service directly to the person's home. If you thought telemedicine was a trend, I think home health is going to be an even more massive trend. We're building out a network of mobile nurses and NPs that can go to people's houses and provide these types of services. But yes, injection, self-injection at home is perfect. You get a vial in the mail, you fill your syringe, you poke it. You do it two to three times a week and you're feeling great.

Speaker 1:

Your syringe, you poke it you do it two to three times a week and you're feeling great. That's awesome. Yeah, I mean mobile one thing we're talking about. I used to live in Austin, texas, and that was the coolest thing. Like everything was mobile. You could get your car washed, your brakes done for our son. Our pediatrician came to our house. It was just the coolest thing. And now I'm just envisioning something like that Like someone pulls up, gives you your NAD injection infusion while you get your blood drawn for your panel.

Speaker 1:

You know, like it, just like it's just. It's so comprehensive and just so cool and the way of the future and convenient. You know, it's like you don't have to get near. Like that is the thing I hate about. I should say hate, but the most inconvenient thing about a lot of things like health care or whatever, is just getting your ass in the car to make the appointment, to sit in a waiting room, you know, and then two hours later you're just kind of feeling cruddy or whatever, just because all of that. But someone can come to you, take your blood, give you, like your injections, your IDs and everything. It's just, it's so easy, it's so much better, it's just so much better and the cost is comparable. I've found you know it doesn't cost any more money or nominal amounts to have someone to come, and so it's just so cool. It's just so cool, so I'm just so stoked to hear you doing that. So hopefully you're coming to Tucson soon with all your things.

Speaker 2:

I'll take note of that I'll keep Tucson in mind. I'll keep Tucson in mind.

Speaker 1:

It's a little bit of a small town, but you know I'm here. Hey, that's okay hey listen everybody.

Speaker 2:

everybody needs healthcare. So, small town or big town, I mean I want Healy to be, to be everywhere.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's awesome. So let's talk about hormone optimization. How does that fit into the longevity picture? You know, I mean probably everyone's heard of hormone replacement therapy or testosterone injections and you know all the above. How do you see that fitting into longevity picture?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean hormones are foundational to how we age Testosterone, estrogen, DHEA, growth hormone they all decline with age. Estrogen, DHEA, growth hormone they all decline with age, and that affects everything from our muscle mass to our mood, our bone density and even our libido. And so at Healy, we don't replace the hormones, we optimize them. That means we look deeply into labs, we analyze the data in the context of what's optimal for health span Again, not just what's normal for your age and we find that balanced hormones support better sleep, they're better for your workouts, we find that they cause better brain function, and they're all critical if you're trying to live a long and high quality, healthy life.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I mean, I know, with my personal journey, with this motivation was. You know, we just talked about age before this I just recently had a birthday and it's and it's for me yeah, thanks, but but it's all about like that motivation, like for me it's just like I've always been active.

Speaker 1:

I never have had an issue with like weight or anything, but it's it's. It was really the motivation that I noticed the most. I was just like I just like drive all of a sudden to like just get, get shit done, and I that's probably my favorite part about it that there's probably under talked about, yes, but it's just like something that I was just like, wow, this is, this is really amazing. So it's just like one of the things. And then the other thing that we've, you know, heard GLP-1s, right, so I know you've launched an integrated metabolic health program that combines these GLP-1 medications with longevity treatment. So there's a synergy there. Can you explain a little bit about the science behind this combination and why it's such a powerful approach to losing weight and keeping it off Absolutely?

Speaker 2:

So the program is about tackling obesity and metabolic dysfunction at the root, while also supporting long-term vitality, and so GLP-1 medications like semaglutide and terzapatide are their game changers for weight loss and blood sugar regulation, but they're really just the beginning. So what we do is we pair the GLP-1s with the personalized lab testing. We have what we call the Healy Superhuman Labs, which are a test with 13 panels. They look at the obvious panels that even your primary care physician will look at, but your hormones and some of the other possible markers that can cause low energy, low libido and other things that you could be experiencing. But essentially, we pair the GLP-1s with peptide therapies, with lifestyle support, so that patients are able to lose fat while building muscle mass which is incredibly important.

Speaker 2:

People don't talk about that enough. Anybody on GLP-1s needs to be supplementing with protein. They need to be physically active, they need to be lifting weights. They have to be focused on building muscle mass so that they're burning fat, not muscle. The key to longevity and living a long life is solid muscle mass and then again improving sleep, restoring energy and so on, and so the result of the program is not just weight loss, it's literally a full body reset that targets the core drivers of inflammation, insulin and resistance and mitochondrial decline.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's so cool. I love hearing that because you do hear about a lot of times the GLP-1s effects of losing muscle mass or you know these other side effects that aren't necessarily addressed by mainstream, like mainstream health care systems that might be prescribing these things, and I love the approach that you guys are taking that like making sure the muscle mass is staying on, so helping with other complementary peptides, keeping that muscle mass, increasing your protein intake and really having a holistic view to it, instead of just like here's the peptide, you're going to lose weight, but then there's all those things that accompany that, whereas, like, you're really addressing all those. So it's a holistic view and it's really really a game changer for those who do partake in that. So that I I love to hear that with that, because, yeah, it's just you do hear about problems that people have with some of these semi-glutides, the glp ones, and that's awesome that you're actually addressing those to make them something that's sustainable for people and actually they'll feel amazing, not only by losing the weight but also the muscle mass and the energy and all those things. So that's super cool.

Speaker 1:

So Dotcom is the website and you operate 100 percent online right, like I mean, obviously there's the touch things, but Healy itself is 100 percent online. You connect patients to licensed doctors and practitioners all over the United States. Managing that. I'm not even going to ask about the management, but one thing that I'm sure our listeners and viewers are probably curious about how do you ensure the quality and safety of everything, since everything's getting delivered virtually, so to speak, from Healy's end to things?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's an important question and honestly, it's not easy, but it's been our focus for almost 10 years that we've been building this thing out. I mean, there's part of the problem with, like complementary health care or integrative or whatever you want to call it, is that there's a lot of bullshit in the space, and so it's harder to weed out what's true, what's not, and so misinformation's abound. We've built our entire infrastructure around delivering safe, compliant and effective care virtually, and so we take it incredibly seriously at Healy, and it starts with the very rigorous vetting of our providers. Every provider that we bring on to Healy is licensed. We're always doing a deep dive for any adverse actions against any of their medical licenses. We look for board sanctions or other red flags in their history. We look at their clinical reputation what are people saying on Yelp and some of the other rating services and just getting an idea for their general approach to medicine, their bedside manner and we're really not looking for average at Healy. We want best-in-class clinicians who share a proactive, personalized approach to care, and it doesn't stop at the doctors.

Speaker 2:

It's really important to vet the crap out of the source of the medication. Again, so much bullshit online and you don't know what you're getting right. So with us, we vet the crap out of our pharmacies too. Every pharmacy in our network must be licensed and it must be accredited, typically by at least one organization like PCAB or LegitScript. They're required to source all of their raw materials and APIs from FDA approved facilities, and we also require that the pharmacies test each batch of any medication for sterility, for stability, and then, after meeting those standards, we add those pharmacies that pass into our network and now they're able to serve our patients. And so we dive pretty pretty deep into our doctors and pharmacies and then, once a prescription is approved, it's delivered directly to the patient store and it doesn't stop there, right? We continue to follow up our care team's involved. We talk about dose adjustments and ongoing virtual support, so that patients never feel like they're flying solo.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's a really important point you just brought up there. I never really thought about it, but people probably spend so much time vetting the doctors and making sure you know. Just from a personal level, it's like, oh, I got to make sure I have the best doctor, but if they're not prescribing the best medications, or the purest or the most verified, that's a huge part of it. You know, the doctor might even be giving you the correct, you know what, you know dosage and prescription and whatever. But if you're not getting it from a pure source or something that might be tainted, that's just as important as the verification of the actual practitioner itself. So I mean that's an awesome point you brought up. I never really thought about that. But, yeah, making sure your pharmacies and people who are delivering the medications and medicines and peptides are of the utmost quality and reputation, that's huge because there is, like you said, so much bullshit out there and just fly by night. You know, it's just. It doesn't take much to just look on online and just look up peptides. Some crazy sites to come up and you're like there's no way these are all legit, you know, and it's just like. And there's just so much noise around, even like the GLP ones, and you know just so many sketchy places that you would never actually want to get these things. So, yeah, that verification that you brought up, what you guys do at Healy, yeah, that's super huge. I just never really thought about it because you think you're going to your doctor and your doctor's taking care of it all. But there's the second part of it where it's like that has to be verified as well the authenticity and the purity of the actual medications you're getting. It's huge, it's really huge.

Speaker 1:

So, kind of moving on to one of my biggest frustrations personally with the longevity medicine and the industry in general is that most of these treatments we've been talking about and any of the other ones aren't covered by insurance, and it's just endlessly frustrating that you're like, look, I'm being proactive. If you could just like, talk to the insurance is like, look, I'm being proactive, I'm exercising, I'm taking the best care of my body, you would think that they would want that to be covered. But that's just not how it works. Obviously, unfortunately. But it could just be so expensive. Being in longevity, getting interested in longevity, try to be accessible to people. So what's Healy doing to making these treatments more accessible? For you know the everyday people you know, and it's just not the rich tech billionaires that you always hear about extending their lives or whatever. But it really should be something that is available for everyone. Everyone should have the right to healthy, low-cost medicines. So what's Healy's part in all of that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, it's pretty mind-boggling because prevention is cheaper in the long run. Right, so it is definitely one of the biggest pain points in our space. We hear it all the time. People want access to cutting-edge treatments, but they're either not covered or it's just too pricey for them to justify it, and the irony is that they're exact things that they're trying to prevent, or the chronic conditions that cost our system are the ones that are most down the line. Essentially, these are all things that can be avoided.

Speaker 2:

We focus on transparent and upfront pricing, first and foremost. We're big on that. We want no surprise bills and upfront pricing. First and foremost, we're big on that. We want no surprise bills. We want someone to know exactly what they're paying for, the service they're getting and why, and so all that information is provided upfront. People make an educated decision around costs.

Speaker 2:

We've created bundled programs and subscription models so patients can plan ahead and stay consistent with their care instead of being hit with like one-off costs and random bills. We provide access to some financing and so they can break costs into smaller chunks over time. And we also take HSA and FSA cards. That's another thing for many of our services. Yeah, so that helps make the services more financially manageable. It's still your money, but at least you get some tax advantage or get some budget earmarked for health. Yeah, that's huge, yeah. But yeah, like I said earlier, prevention is cheaper in the long run. If you think about the economics, it's actually cheaper to help someone lose weight, balance their hormones and optimize sleep now than to wait for them to develop diabetes, heart disease or depression in the future. It may feel out of pocket of fraud, but we're helping people make an investment in their future that pays dividends and health and performance and even cost yeah, and it's almost like a side conversation.

Speaker 1:

Obviously you could take about ad nauseum, about just you just think that government itself would be interested in this, just because the gdp would be affected by people being healthy and not being slogging around like if everyone was like like bright, strong, well-rested, healthy, the GDP would just go skyrocket. So I mean even just obviously that's a totally different discussion there, but it's just like, yeah, that just having that it just has an effect on GDP, not only just people's pocketbooks and insurance, but yeah, it's just the increased productivity. You know, even like I was saying earlier, the motivation that I've gotten is you're just like, okay, cool, this is a good thing, it's just undeniable. So, talking about you know that type of thing, let's talk about results. What kind of feedback are you getting from the people you're serving and engaging with Healy's programs? Like, what are you hearing from patients about their experiences with you at?

Speaker 2:

Healy. Yeah, I mean, generally you hear about positive results because the treatments definitely were. I mean just even something simple. Well, it's not simple, but it is now. With weight loss, Like GLP-1s are a great crutch to losing weight, to getting to your target. I mean, when you're overweight it's hard to consider anything, let alone like getting up and going to the gym. But you know, using that crutch, the GLP-1 will help you get down to the target weight. So the results have been great. It's inspiring.

Speaker 2:

And you actually brought up insurance in my past life. I'll just talk about it for one second. It was, for the most part, miserable and like very depressing, because because in insurance everyone's always pissed off at you. Your customers think they're paying too much, their claims don't get paid right, Things are just always negative and sad. And here it's like a whole different feeling because everyone's always thankful to us. I'm like, oh my God, I feel great and I've lost a hundred pounds, and like I can do this and I can throw my kid around and I just it's incredibly rewarding to hear all these success stories and like I get pictures all the time text messages sent to me of like before and afters, and so I think what we're doing is working. That's been the feedback from our, from our user base, from our patients, and, yeah, that's that's the stories, is what really keeps us going and inspires us.

Speaker 1:

That's cool. Yeah, I love to hear that and I'm sure you have some awesome testimonials and stories from patients, just because, like you said, you're I don't know. It's like I was just going to say you're bringing joy into people's lives, but you know, it's it's. It's almost like there's a word I can't quite on the tip of my tongue, but it's not joy, it's like satisfaction or something like that. But you're bringing fulfillment. That's like like making people come alive again. I guess is what you just say. And, of course, yeah, people are going to love that versus, yeah, Insurance, which just kind of doesn't give you anything.

Speaker 1:

I mean, it gives you something for what you're paying for, but it's like when you're paying, for it, and then you do have something, yeah, and then and then, when they don't pay for something that you've been paying, it's just like, oh my God, it's like endlessly frustrating. So I've got a question for you when do you see longevity medicine heading in the next, say, five to 10 years? There's a lot of stuff on the horizon, super exciting, that both you and I know about. But what are you really looking forward to and where do you?

Speaker 2:

see longevity medicine ultimately heading. Honestly, I hope that in five to 10 years, we don't even need to call it longevity anymore. The fact that we have to give it a name like longevity or anti-aging medicine it just shows how backwards our healthcare system truly is. If primary care actually did this job, focusing on prevention, optimization and lifestyle, then this wouldn't be a separate category at all. So let's call it what it is it's foundational health and it isn't about exotic treatments. It's about doing the basics really really well. It's foundational health and it isn't about exotic treatments. It's about doing the basics really really well. It's about being aware of your baseline.

Speaker 2:

If you want to live a long and high quality life, you have to start by moving. You have to cut the garbage out of your diet. It's got to be 80-20, right. 80% clean, 20% junk is okay. Eat a slice of pizza every once in a while. Sleep is non-negotiable. Humans can live a long time. It just matters how you live and if you get the basics down, it's going to work for you.

Speaker 2:

So where is it headed? I think we'll see more focus on diagnostics. Blood work, genetic panels and wearables are all going to be at the forefront. We're going to use data to personalize care in real time. I think AI is going to play a huge role in analyzing trends, in adjusting treatment plans and just giving people smarter, more precise guidance, but I think the tech will only be as good as the basics. As you mentioned earlier, no AI is going to outwork a good night's sleep or a consistent fitness habit. So, yeah, maybe primary care starts to include things like nutrition coaching, sleep tracking, strength training advice and peptides, and that's when we'll know we've done something meaningful and what we now call longevity just becomes the standard of care.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, that's exactly. It's like I know there's some parable. There's just like it's not that, it's just wellness, it's not longevity, it's just like being healthy, right Like there's just, it's just like it's superlative to say like longevity medicine or whatever. It should just be like just healthcare or medicine for a second here. So Longevity Loop podcast. This podcast is brought to everyone by Spannrcom, an online directory for all things longevity. You know you can find a doctor there with Greg. That's where GetHealy we can find GetHealy on Spannrcom.

Speaker 1:

For someone who's listening and interested in optimizing their health and potentially exploring some of these treatments, what would be your advice for getting started with this? I mean, I know you've made it extremely easy and I'm going to make a video that you know when we're not on the podcast, showing how easy it is like, with a screenshot or a screen video showing how easy it is to get Like. It's incredible what you've put together, because it truly is the easiest thing and it's no cost to have that initial consultation. It's just like booking a time. That's good for you and you get to talk to someone for free. So that's amazing just in itself. But let's get practical for a second here. So Longevity Loop podcast. This podcast is brought to everyone by SPANNRcom, an online directory for all things longevity. You know you can find a doctor there with Greg. That's where GetHealy. We can find GetHealy on Spannercom.

Speaker 1:

For someone who's listening and interested in optimizing their health and potentially exploring some of these treatments, what would be your advice for getting started with this? I mean, I know you've made it extremely easy and I'm going to make a video that you know when we're not on the podcast, showing how easy it is like, with a screenshot or a screen video showing how easy it is to get. Like it's incredible what you've put together. It cause. It truly is like the easiest thing and it's no cost to have that initial consultation. It's just like booking a time that's good for you and you get to talk to someone for free. So that's amazing just in itself. What would be your advice to getting started with? You know, longevity and optimization?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's a great question. I would say don't. The advice is like don't overcomplicate it, just start. You know, the most important thing is to stop. The most important thing is to stop thinking of longevity as some kind of elite scientific thing that's out of reach or expensive. It's not about perfection, it's not about the latest biohack, it's really just about consistency. And so I would say, just jump right in, probably want to start with labs so you get a baseline and that's you know where you'd start. And then, once you have your baseline, you you know, look at where you know you have deficiencies and you supplement, essentially whether it's a lifestyle change or a nucleoside or something, a peptide right and in terms of, yeah, getting it done at Healy.

Speaker 2:

It's all super simple. You just head over to our website, which is gethealycom that's G-E-T-H-E-A-L-L-Ycom, and you'll see all the options that are on our homepage. Those are all the services that we offer. You can explore those services and you can choose your path.

Speaker 2:

You can start with a specific goal in mind, like weight loss, hormone optimization, peptides, labs, or, like Brent said, you can book a free consult with our care team and just talk through it with them, because a lot of people don't really know what they need or where to start, and so we don't want that to be intimidating. And then, once you book, you'll complete a quick intake so we know your health background, so we understand your goals, and then you'll meet with a doctor. They'll review your case, they'll recommend labs if needed and then build a personalized plan that's tailored just for you. And again, it's not like one size fits all, right, everything is customized based on your biology, your goals, your lifestyle. For new patients, we make it super easy. Pricing is clear. There's no hidden costs. You have access to our team whenever you have questions. So, yeah, if you're ready to stop guessing and start optimizing, come see us at Healycom specifically for you.

Speaker 1:

So you definitely want to get those labs and figure out what you are on the inside before starting any sort of peptide or anything you know. You want to know where your deficiencies are, you want to find out where some potential problem areas are, and all of these practitioners and doctors will help that. So I've got maybe one or two questions here, but one thing that's coming up is that you know, most people probably do have a primary care physician, right, like they are going to have a traditional doctor, most likely. But if they want to explore longevity medicine, how would you recommend they navigate that conversation? Like how Healy can complement their existing healthcare? If they're going to have a conversation with their doctor, like what would be the things that you know might go into that like internal conversation Well, I already have a doctor. Do I really need this? Like, should I talk to my doctor? What would be your you know recommendations on that front?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, basically, it doesn't have to be like either this or that. I would just basically, you know, talk to them openly about it and just say that I'm interested in, you know, optimizing my health, I'm interested in optimizing my energy, and so you know, I would like to do these. You know additional services and see what they say to you. A lot of them are open to it. Maybe they don't recommend it personally, but they can at least, you know, advise that hey, it's okay to go down that path. Some of them are going to just say no and they're not interested in those.

Speaker 2:

You know other options or off-label use, and that's okay. And then you can always get a second or a third opinion. But bottom line, it shouldn't be like an us and them conversation. It should be, you know, like a complimentary thing. It's like, hey, like these are the things that I want to optimize and how I think I should optimize them, and then have them tell you what they think and have a discussion with them and you know, hopefully they're, you know, smart and they will give you the right answer. And yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's a collaborative effort and they're all supposed to be on your team. Exactly, it's a thing to keep in mind. Your doctor is on your team and any potential future optimization they're going to be on your team as well. So that's what you have to keep in mind is that it's a collaborative effect and you want them collaborating, because a lot of times I don't know exactly what it is with all the practitioners and doctors on your side of things, but I know with me.

Speaker 1:

My particular longevity doctor that I work with now requires me to have a primary care physician and to get kind of get those baselines to make sure I'm getting my physicals and, like you know, those kind of routine type of things. And then that stacks on top of that and is complimentary, very complimentary to all that. So I know that's with me and the doctors I work with, my primary care physicians, very supportive of it. I think it's really, really cool. It's not their bag, but they think it's awesome and they love seeing the results I get from my longevity team that I work with. So it's super, super cool. So, greg, thanks so much for coming on today spending time. You're super busy as the CEO running Healy, you know.

Speaker 1:

so I really appreciate your time. I know it's super valuable and we've covered this, but just so we go over it one more time. For the listeners who want to learn more about Healy and potentially explore the treatments, what's the best way for them to get started?

Speaker 2:

the website gethealycom G-E-T-H-E-A-L-L-Ycom and book a free consult and talk to our care team. I mean, it's low pressure, no obligations, just answer questions, get you the information you need to make an educated decision. That's probably the easiest way.

Speaker 1:

Cool and I just want to add to that. I just want to make sure that our Longevity Loop community and the Spannercom community also knows that when they explore Healy through our show, they're supporting both the amazing work Greg does and also the work that we're doing and our ability to continue bringing you the podcast and all the content, the longevity directory on spannercom it's just all synergistic and stuff. So just really check out spannercom because that's a great resource and you'll see Healy there front and center. So just really check out spannercom because that's a great resource and you'll see Healy there front and center. We love Greg and his team and everything he does, so it's just really cool. So just right before we wrap up, what's one piece of advice you give to someone who's just starting to think seriously about longevity and health optimization and what's the most important first step that they can take? And we've kind of covered this. Obviously you know, like probably the first step is to, you know, go to get Healy, but you know if there's something before that step what would you say?

Speaker 2:

Three things that, like you've passed it to do, that everyone can do. So stop making excuses and focus on those things. And then come to get Healy, get your labs, get that baseline, and we'll take care of you from there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's cool and that's great advice, because without those foundational things exercise, sleep, nutrition it doesn't matter what kind of optimizations you're getting, they're just not going to work the way you want without those foundational things. All right y'all. Thanks for coming on again, greg. Thank you, you know, for everyone listening, if you found this valuable, leave us a review, share it with someone you know, just for anyone that could benefit from. You know, healy services. That's just really great stuff. So thanks again, greg, for coming on.

Speaker 2:

Thank you Thanks again.

Speaker 1:

Brett, so you've just taken another step towards a longer, healthier life. Thanks for tuning in to the Longevity Loop. All resources and a full transcript from this episode are available at our longevity hub, Spannercom. Spanner is our hub for all things longevity from finding the best longevity doctor to work with in your area to breakthrough products and educational resources, and for the innovators, doctors and clinicians that are tuned in. Right now, I do help professionals like you get more patients with cutting edge AI, enhanced marketing and lead capture systems at longevityclinicmarketingcom. Be sure to follow the longevity loop on your favorite podcast app to continue building your blueprint for 100 plus your life. So let's keep the loop going. I'll see you next time.

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